008: Organizing Kids with ADHD, with Leslie Josel

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Kids with ADHD are exponentially more likely to have poor planning and organization skills, part of their poor executive functioning. That's something Leslie Josel of Order Out of Chaos knows all too well… as do I. This can be a constant battle for parents of kids with ADHD, but it doesn't have to be.

In this episode, Leslie and I discuss different organizational challenges of kids with ADHD, and what products, strategies, tools, training, and expectations parents can implement to make a positive difference with this struggle, both at school and at home.

You will love Leslie's energy and passion as she shares many valuable organizational strategies that work for organizationally-challenged kids with ADHD, including her own son, who's now a successful college student (it is possible folks!). Grab pen and paper and start the podcast audio, and get ready for some new strategies you can implement today. 


Some of the resources may be affiliate links, meaning I receive a commission (at no cost to you) if you use that link to make a purchase.

Remember: The support needs to be at the POINT OF PERFORMANCE.

Rules of Thumb:

  1. Simplify
  2. Less is more
  3. Clear is always better, can be colored but must see through it

Tools (get the download above for Leslie's complete list of recommended products for ADHD organizing):

At Home:

Ask first:

  • Can he easily access storage?
  • Is organization that makes sense to your child?
  • Does everything have a home?


Create Problem Solvers:  Teach kids to define what they need and ask for it — “If you did not ask a question, there is not an answer…”

The Organized Student, Donna Goldberg

Smart but Scattered, Dawson & Guare

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My Guest


Leslie Josel is a successful entrepreneur, author, and internationally acclaimed speaker. She is the creator of the award-winning Academic Planner: A Tool for Time Management®, a planner that helps students develop and master time management skills, and author of the award-winning What’s the Deal with Teens and Time Management, a parents step-by-step guide to help teach their teens the time management skills they need to succeed.

Leslie brought Order Out of Chaos to life from a very personal mission. She is the mother of a time-and-organizationally-challenged teen who was diagnosed with ADHD. She founded the company over a decade ago with the goal of providing professional organizing, time management, and coaching services; family education, and products and resources to families with similar struggles.

A respected resource on ADHD and Executive Functioning in students, Leslie speaks and conducts workshops internationally to parent and educator groups on a variety of topics facing students today. Leslie has also been featured in national broadcast and print media such as the Hallmark Channel’s “The Better Show”, Forbes Magazine, The Associated Press, and Family Circle Magazine.

Most recently, Leslie was featured in Forbes for their Women@Forbes series and chosen as one of Acquisition International’s 2016 most Influential Business Women in Special Education Needs.


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I'm Penny Williams.

I help stuck and struggling parents (educators, too) make the pivots necessary to unlock success and joy for neurodivergent kids and teens, themselves, and their families. I'm honored to be part of your journey!

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